Got the carbon frame all tacked together this weekend and it looks like a bike frame however I have only done the easy part. Laying down the carbon patches and the vacuum bagging is gonna be where all the strength comes from however I have to build up some fillets around all the joints first and this will provide some extra strength as well as give me a smoother foundation for the carbon layup. I have to remind myself that on this first carbon frame I am just shooting to get a good, solid, rideable frameset but I also am hoping that it doesn't look like a pile of rags while I'm riding it. I shouldn't even pay attention to the weight however I can't help it, building a lighter frame is the main reason I am experimenting with carbon. Right now its 2.22 lbs in a size 58cm without the tubes trimmed. I am hoping that the finished frame will be sub 3 lbs but we'll see. The next weigh-in will be after I have all the fillets laid down. I'm fixin' to start on that right now. Stay tuned. How bout that Tour? I don't have a clue who's gonna win but I bet we're gonna see Alberto Contador climb like a maniac before too long. Enjoy.