I built this frame off of the geometry from a Scott CR1 that I road for a couple years. I didn't paint it because I wanted the fillets to show through, truthfully the fillets could have been better but it is one of my earlier frames and I wanted to ride it more than sand and clean fillets you know. Frame weighs 3.5 lbs and with fork it is a mere 5 lbs. It is a size 58. It rides alot like the CR1, which even though the geometry is the same I thought there would be a huge difference since one is carbon and one is steel but they feel similar going over bumps.